Inkscape for Cutting Design

Help and Support => Help Using Inkscape => Silhouette and Craft Robo Owners => Topic started by: Laurianne on August 12, 2010, 06:07:23 PM

Title: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on August 12, 2010, 06:07:23 PM
I hope I'm not asking a question that has already been answered....  

 I have figured out how to cut directly from Inkscape, but I don't know if it is possible to use registration marks so that I can do a "print and cut".  Does anyone cut that way directly from Inkscape?
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Silvertip on August 12, 2010, 08:22:17 PM
I can with my cougar, but not my cricut.  The cougar does print and cut with registration marks also.  Actually straight from ink It goes into Sign Cut and cuts.  After I align my registration marks.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on August 12, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
I am trying to cut from Inkscape directly to Craft Robo without using the Robo Master software.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Aussie Carolyn on August 12, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
I think Angela has been working on print and cut images directly to the Craft Robo.
Yes, Angela you can tell me off if I am wrong on this one.

I have one video to edit for showing how easy it is to create a print and cut projects in Inkscape and a few more to do as soon as I can talk clearly again. The Craft Robo experts will then have to see if the same steps can be used for cutting directly. Or hopefully somebody has already worked it out.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on August 13, 2010, 02:24:55 AM
Hi Laurianne

Print and Cut is the 1 function that I can't quite get to work, Inkscape just won't acknowledge the registration marks when sending for cutting.....OOOOooo I wonder....I just had a lightbulb moment and I'm at work and will have to wait until I get home to try it....and Carolyn I can't wait to see the video it may help with finding a solution with the Print and cut issue.......
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on August 13, 2010, 05:42:42 AM
Carolyn and Angel,

I will be anxiously awaiting this.  I'll bet you gals can figure it out!  I bought the Craft Robo instead of the Cricut because I wanted to do the print and cut, and have done it successfully with the Robo software.  But anything I can do directly from Inkscape is easier.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on August 13, 2010, 01:34:30 PM
Hhhhhmmmm that lightbulb moment lasted until I got home and then remembered it can't work because you have too print the picture before cutting, which means removing the card from the machine to be printed; and then you would have too make sure that you realign the print back onto your mat too cut...I know there is an easy way I just haven't figured it out yet but I will......No pressure Carolyn but where's the vid??????
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Silvertip on August 13, 2010, 02:13:42 PM
Actually you can print in cut on a cutter.  It is just the amount of steps you have to go thru if the machine isn't set up to do it.  Actually with my cougar, people prefer the alternate method over the using there laser.  I haven't it tried it but a lot of people have had success.  And I think you all would be better off to wait for Carolyn's tutorial.  Then for me to butcher trying to explain it.  I tend to forget steps.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Aussie Carolyn on August 13, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
Quote from: "Angel13"
Hhhhhmmmm that lightbulb moment lasted until I got home and then remembered it can't work because you have too print the picture before cutting, which means removing the card from the machine to be printed; and then you would have too make sure that you realign the print back onto your mat too cut...I know there is an easy way I just haven't figured it out yet but I will......No pressure Carolyn but where's the vid??????

Yep, no pressure at all. I will do it today.
I don't think it will help though as the video is showing how to change an image into a print and cut file. You already know that principle from RoboMaster. The video will be finished and uploaded within the next 12 hours. If nobody interrupts me at home it will be a lot sooner.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: phinjay on August 25, 2010, 03:06:14 AM
I've had some success with PNC in Inkscape. What I did was create a blank registration page in ROBO Master, and print it as a PDF file. Once that was done, I imported it into Inkscape and saved in the templates folder for Inkscape, so I can pull it up again and again.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on August 25, 2010, 07:31:32 AM
Hi Phinjay

What do you mean 'and print it as a PDF file?'
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Silvertip on August 25, 2010, 07:50:22 AM
I don't know if this will help.  But I remember someone doing this and if I miss steps I am sorry, it is from memory which you all know is quite forgetful at times.  Take and print your image you want to cut.

Then in inkscape bring that image in and trace around the parts you want cut.  put paper on your mat and tape the edges down.  Cut it out.  I don't know how the other machines work but what you want to do is move the mat so you can lift the three edges (both sides and front) of the paper and slide the printed paper under and line up the printed image under the cut out area.  Re-load the paper to the original start edge and try cutting it that way.  

I hope this makes sense.  I know on my cricut I have a button that says load paper.  If I need to go back to the original start point I hit that.  And it will put my mat and paper back to the original starting point.

Don't yell to loud if this doesn't work.  I will mess with it after work.  But I thought it would help with the creative juices for other machines.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: lkc on August 25, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
Here's a topic started by Kay on the scal forum for a print and cut technique though not from Inkscape but it is a great option...as you will see in the thread I used the technique with success. The pictures help to understand how to do it!

http://forums.surecutsalot.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7732&hilit=+print+cut
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Silvertip on August 25, 2010, 10:09:12 AM
Thank you Laura, that is it.  Gosh I hope I was somewhat close in how I described it.  This should work hopefully for other cutters also. I know it does on my Cougar, and my Cricut.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: leadale on August 25, 2010, 11:58:19 AM
I had the same thought as Phinjay.    Having saved a blank page in Robomaster  using CutePDF, (making sure the  registration marks were turned on before saving).   I then opened it up in Inkscape.  So far so good.  I then chose a simple flower and put it on its own layer for printing and the cutting lines on a another.
Everything was crossed ….Printed it ( I even remembered to turn off my cut line layer)– then sent it to cut….  And although it cut out my flower, it was not directly around it  :(  :x  :cry:
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on August 25, 2010, 12:02:51 PM
Ooooo Suzan and Laura

I did see a demo that was a little similar to the cutting and taping route but I haven't had time to try yet, definitely on my to do list this UK Bank Holiday weekend. I have the 1st generation Silhouette which is the same as the 2nd generation Craft Robo and its a manual operation to load the mat whereas with the SD version as described by Phinjay its an automatic loading mechanism so paper alignment wouldn't be a problem......hope this is making sense.......
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Silvertip on August 25, 2010, 12:32:10 PM
No it is all greek to me.  But I don't use those machines. What is important is that it isn't greek to you.  I love it when a plan comes together.  I couldn't remember where I saw the tutorial,  Laura did, and now you can put it together with your machines.  YIPPEEEEEEEE.  :D
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: phinjay on August 25, 2010, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: "Angel13"
Hi Phinjay

What do you mean 'and print it as a PDF file?'

I use a freeware program called PrimoPDF. It converts documents to PDF files. Once, you've installed it, in ROBO Master, it's an option when you go to your printer settings.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: cochran5 on September 02, 2010, 11:37:16 PM
I too need some help with Silhouette SD and Inkscape.  I have tried for hours to get this to work but can't seem to find the error in my ways.  I have created a PDF file of the registration marks. From Inkscape sending it to cut, the registration marks appear to be read and a cut is made but the cut is not where it should be. I do get accurate cuts when doing print to cut directly in RoboMaster so it's something I am not setting correctly in Inkscape or the Silhouette dirver.  It's close, it's cutting, just not exactly where it should be.  The circle I am trying to cut is off by about a half inch versus what is printed yet they are lined-up on the screen.  It seems to me that it's either the registration marks or something I am doing with the page setup.  I printed my registration marks from both RoboMaster and Inkscape, overlaid them and they line-up just fine. Any thoughts on the Silhouette SD working from Inkscape but not getting an accurate cut?  I am using a carrier sheet and it's an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper I am trying to cut.

Thanks for any suggestions!!
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on September 04, 2010, 03:10:19 AM
Ok All

I'm biting that PnC (print & Cut) bullet and going to spend the best part of today being Saturday GMT, to test out the various techniques hope to be back soon........ 8-)  :)


Yea I'm back and here are the results for now, I need to do something else or my Silhouette may end up flying throught my Living room window. Have not tried these techniques on the 0.48 version yet, I will but NOT TODAY!!!!!

1 more thing the Registration marks started to cut out as well because my default cutline is black, it could be because I didnlt actually save it as a template to use again and again; but that's for another time.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on September 10, 2010, 07:11:30 AM
I was able to get the cutter to read the registration marks but when the cut is made, it is off on both X and Y.  I tried to calibrate it to fix this but I don't know what I'm doing and had no success.  I decided to walk away from it before a cutter and a couple computers went flying out the window!

I actually think there is some kind of problem with Inkscape (the code or something) that it doesn't put the pictures exactly where it is supposed to.  Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about... but that's the way it seems to me.  I am thinking it will have to be fixed from the Inkscape side of things.

Is anyone else out there coming up with any other ideas?
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on September 10, 2010, 07:47:40 AM
Oh Laurianne, did you not see my examples on the previous page last post; could have saved you a headache.......
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on September 12, 2010, 12:26:27 PM
Angel,

I did see your posts. Maybe I am not understanding something.  Were you able to recalibrate ..... or do you have to cut out an outline and then match the picture up and cut again?  I'm sorry if I am just not getting it...
I was hoping there was a way to reset things so that it worked every time.
 
It looks like someone is working on a program that works with Inkscape called Inkcut.  Have you heard of that?  I believe it only works in Linux.  When I have time, I am going to give it a try on my Linux machine.

I just finished a project that I ended up cutting out by hand because I was afraid of losing picture quality by sending it to Robo Master.  I really want to figure this out.

Thank you for all your help!
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on September 12, 2010, 12:38:40 PM
Hi Laurianne

I have to admit not going down the recalibrate road, its looks too complicated to me!!! I was trying to do a version like this 1 http://http://forums.surecutsalot.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7732&hilit=+print+cut and it nearly worked.......I would be interested in your results with Inkcut......
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Laurianne on September 12, 2010, 04:16:29 PM
Angel,

I will certainly let you know if I get anywhere with Inkcut.  It may be a while because I have to work all this week.  But I will work on it when I can.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Meadowlark on December 07, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: "cochran5"
...The circle I am trying to cut is off by about a half inch versus what is printed yet they are lined-up on the screen.  It seems to me that it's either the registration marks or something I am doing with the page setup.  I printed my registration marks from both RoboMaster and Inkscape, overlaid them and they line-up just fine. Any thoughts on the Silhouette SD working from Inkscape but not getting an accurate cut?  I am using a carrier sheet and it's an 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper I am trying to cut.

Thanks for any suggestions!!

As I struggle through the same thing, I wondered about the size of your line. I've had that issue before when doing print work - the line size needs to be set to nearly nothing.

This probably isn't it, but I always feel every little tiny baby step puts us that much closer to the moon.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: riogirl71 on November 15, 2011, 12:34:38 PM
I have been able to do a PNC from inkscape to Crobo, much smoother cutting for everything from inkscape than robomaster.  I made myself a reminder word doc that I can post here and template too, I will do it when I get home.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on November 16, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
Oooo Riogirl71 I'm looking forward to seeing your Word doc and template.....
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: riogirl71 on November 16, 2011, 04:28:17 PM
Don't forget to put your objects in a separate layer in inkscape and you can use this as a template.

The important part is to figure out your offsets, to do so go here

http://treesawardintutorials.blogspot.c ... craft.html (http://treesawardintutorials.blogspot.com/2009/11/print-and-cut-with-inkscape-and-craft.html)

I would suggest a saquare to measure your offsets, much easier!  Note your offsets and use the template I put here.

Let me know if this works!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: riogirl71 on November 16, 2011, 07:44:39 PM
Angel _ I just got a cougar too!
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on November 17, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: "riogirl71"
Angel _ I just got a cougar too!


Ooo what size Cougar did you get???
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: riogirl71 on November 17, 2011, 07:51:17 PM
15" cougar, you?
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on November 18, 2011, 12:05:49 AM
Oooo I think mine is a 15" as well, but too my shame I haven't really used it as it can be used, but I don't like the Signcut part of it; and I've been a little spoilt by my Silhouette machine at the moment.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: HeatherM on December 22, 2011, 05:13:12 PM
There might be some hope for an Inkscape plug-in.  http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10081 (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10081)
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on December 22, 2011, 05:26:59 PM
OOooo Heather, when I looked at the posting I was wondering what you were looking at because the post were quite old, until I realised I was looking at the joining date of the people asking the questions etc....Then I scrolled down 2 the other posts and came to the last 2 posts and saw the recent answers; and its looks very very promising.......Now I wonder which company asked them to look into this function for them, I wonder if it was Graphtec........Oooo exciting.......
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Jakobud on February 03, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
I know this is an old topic but I'm trying to do the cut and print all within Inkscape.  I have done the following:

1. Created a blank document in Silhouette with the registration marks.  Printed it as a PDF.
2. Imported PDF into Inkscape
3. Created my art in Inkscape on a document that has the registration marks
4. Choose a Cutline color as purple
5. Print out image in color printer with cutlines hidden.
6. Now, I choose my Graphtec c330 (Silhouette) as the printer in Inkscape to print
7. In the printer preferences I pick my cutline color (purple)

But now when I send this to the Silhouette printer/cutter, how do I tell the printer to detect the registration marks?  When you are working in the Silhouette software and are ready to send the document to the cutter, there is a process that allows you to automatically or manually detect the registration marks.  There doesn't seem to be anything like this in Inkscape.  How do I proceed here?
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Inkspots on February 03, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Hi Jakobud,
Looks like you've got your Inkscape installed and working.
:)

Did you try downloading the plugin mentioned in HeatherM's message above?
You can download it from this page:
http://https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B88_ONXgpqtoam1BTmFvWjFfeFE/edit?pli=1
and whether it works for you or not, please leave a comment for the author in either the download page,
or the topic in the Inkscape forum. (Such work must at least be acknowledged if we want people to go on doing it.)

Just download both the .Inx and .py files, and put them into the Inkscape extensions folder.
according to author's notes in the .inx file, the original version of the registration marks extension is bundled in one of the standard releases of Inkscape, but I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Angel13 on February 04, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
Hi Again Jakobud

I have to admit PnC is the only thing I wasn't too successful in doing with inkscape to my silhouette, and that is about the only time I use the silhouette software.
Title: Re: Print and cut from Inkscape
Post by: Inkspots on February 05, 2013, 12:53:29 AM
I tried the registration mark extension, though I cant actually use it,
since I have no cutter. The extensions shows up in the menu,the dialog
window opens, and the marks are created. placing them seems a bit of a problem though
and I think a live preview would be helpful.
Edit:
How do you cut directly from inkscape
without inkcut? Do you just send the job to your cutter
as though it were an ordinary printer?