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Offline Aussie Carolyn

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Scatter.
« on: August 08, 2010, 05:47:42 AM »
I'm just curious if anyone else has used scatter in Inkscape.
Do you find any difference to pattern along path? Is it better for some designs?
I have tested some files out side by side using both options and do not see much difference. I wondered if I am missing something.
Extensions>generate from path>scatter
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2010, 08:02:02 AM »
I have only played with scatter a little, but it looks like it doesn't distort the pattern like Pattern along path tends to do.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2010, 08:06:09 AM »
Thanks Heather. I may try it out some more, as it would be nice to not have circles distort as much on some shapes.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 08:45:08 AM »
Haven't tried it Carolyn.  I will put it on tomorrow's TO DO list.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2010, 09:03:45 AM »
I've used it a little.  I still have to realign some of the pieces unless I get real luck and the size of the object fits nicely around the element.

But unless I'm missing something the end result is just like pattern along path or interpolate sub paths.  Let's keep playing with this feature.

I saw this Q/A on this forum about scatter

http://www.pubbs.net/200908/inkscape/51 ... sions.html

On 25/8/09 13:13, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
> Can anybody tell me the difference between the Scatter and Pattern
> along Path extensions? They look almost identical.
Just did a google search yesterday:

Pattern along path: "... bends a path according to another (notice that
this feature is now availbale right in inkscape via "live path
effects"!!!; however, groups are not handled yet, so this script might
still be usefull for complex or color full patterns...)"
Scatter: "... similar, but the path is not deformed: it is just stamped
along the second path."

In my example the top one is scatter and the bottom pattern along path.  Identical path and you see that the object along the pattern is distorted at the beginning and end where scatter is not.

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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2010, 03:21:05 PM »
Wow, thank you for all the information Susan. I know I will definitely keep playing with scatter. It is always good to know there are different options to create a design. I think from now on if I use pattern along path I will duplicate the design using scatter and keep the one that gives a better result.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2010, 05:13:28 PM »
Hi All

I have been playing with scatter and have come up with results below.
You do have to move a couple of objects sometimes but over all I have been impressed especially with grouped objects.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2010, 05:19:04 PM »
Ooooo now this scatter thingy looks interesting will need to play soooonnnnn..... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2010, 05:26:23 PM »
Quote from: "jobab"
Hi All

I have been playing with scatter and have come up with results below.
You do have to move a couple of objects sometimes but over all I have been impressed especially with grouped objects.
Cheers
Jo

You are so amazingly talented....can I be you when I grow up? :lol:

thanks for the lovely design.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2010, 05:37:06 PM »
Very pretty designs Jo. You have inspired me to try more design work using scatter.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2010, 03:15:36 AM »
Thank you Susan I have always admired your work and tutes and have been aspiring to be like you know that I am finally growing up!!!! :lol:  :lol:

Carolyn, I found the scatter didn't distort the object as much and it only needed a little tweaking if something wasn't quite in the right place.

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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2010, 04:49:59 AM »
Hi Jo,

I have been playing a little.  Quite interesting to be able to use Path-Exclusion to create a hollow object and attach it to the outside of a shape.  I do find, however, that it appears difficult to weld the result to outside of the shape.  I am going through a whole routine of Path-Object to Path and Breaking Apart before I can get it to weld.  It seems I need to break it apart several times before it works but doing so I also run the risk of breaking the Path-Exclusion formed pattern.  It certainly is very quick.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2010, 05:10:46 AM »
Hi Techie, I just tried this with a few shape combination's and it worked every time. I apply scatter, ungroup and then weld.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2010, 05:33:11 AM »
Hi Techie
I have been doing the same as Carolyn apply scatter then ungroup it remove any duplicates then select all and weld to shape. So far I haven't had any major problems.

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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2010, 05:50:02 AM »
I know what the problem is I have one of the settings on cloned rather than copied and it prevents Path-Union until the Cut Clones facility is used  :roll: .
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2010, 06:00:53 AM »
Good, that was an easy fix.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 09:22:35 AM »
I was browsing through the tutorials list Carolyn bookmarked and one of the sites has a great tutorial for creating borders using Scatter.

http://verysimpledesigns.com/vectors/in ... rders.html

As Carolyn pointed out if you are going to cut you'll need to add some steps but some really cool designs and a good use for Scatter.

Thanks Carolyn and all who posted links to tutorials.
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2010, 08:59:48 PM »
Now is Scatter in Inkscape or is it another program?  When you do your tuts
do you specify w/c Inkscape you're using, I use .46 so just would like to know.
And would I be able to do it in .46 if you are creating in .47???
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Re: Scatter.
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2010, 09:42:22 PM »
Hi Cheryl, I have started mentioning the version of Inkscape I use in any tutorials. I forgot this time around. I will make sure I mention the version in future topics.
Scatter is new to Inkscape version 0.47. So to play with scatter you will not be able to do so in version 0.46, unfortunately.
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