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Offline cleversomeday

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Sharing patterns
« on: July 15, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »
I have a few seamless vector patterns I use for filling objects and I'd eventually like to share them. Unless I'm missing something, there's not a real obvious way to do this in Inkscape. In AI, for instance, you can make patterns into an .ai file that you can load into .ai and have them show up in the swatches. In Inkscape, patterns have to be loaded using XML. If you share an Inkscape document with the patterns already in it, then they can be used in that document only.
The best way seems to be just including images themselves and letting the user turn them into patterns, which would be OK for us experienced folks but not beginners. Does anyone have a better idea?
Another thought. What if we pooled our resources and created a set of default docs with categories of pattern fills. Like one for trendy, one for geometric, one for textile, etc. Then we could open those and have a palette full of patterns to play with. These might also be a draw for the forum.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 05:15:49 PM »
Kay, I like the idea of posting patterns !  I have made some and installed successfully in the pattern folder in Inkscape so I can access them at will.

Both Carolyn and I are gone in September and Angela is off somewhere but whilst I am here I will help set this up.

Great idea and happy you've joined in.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 05:23:43 PM »
Sounds like a great idea. I must admit I do not play much with patterns but it would be good to explore something new.

I stopped creating patterns as I didn't like the gaps when using them as a pattern fill. I have since realised thanks to other people that tiled clones works better for pattern fills.

I rarely use clip set as I don't like how the hidden part is still accounted for when doing something else with the design. Is that the part that needs editing in the XML editor? I tend to use Object to Pattern instead of Clip Set but it too has it faults.

I will show the method I use to create a pattern. The big drawback is if a person has the wrong settings in Inkscape because the pattern will change when the object is moved. I think this could be solved by exporting the bitmap and sharing the PNG file.

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I am not saying the method I use is better. I just thought I would show an alternative to Clip Set.

If the design has a white background (does not work well with a coloured background) using the above method, the pattern can be changed as there will be nodes visible that can be moved to change the size and angle of the pattern fill.  Also experiment with turning the Affect for pattern fill on and off when resizing.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 02:14:24 PM »
OK you ladies have lost me????
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 05:18:23 PM »
Angela, read this tutorial and it should make sense http://verysimpledesigns.com/vectors/in ... terns.html
For anyone else who has not visited Very Simple Designs yet, the website has great Inkscape tutorials, here is the list http://verysimpledesigns.com/vectors/
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 03:37:16 PM »
I discovered that while I still see the white gaps on screen in 0.47 they do not show up in my prints, so I'm back to using pattern fill. I have also discovered that in .48 the vector fill patterns print in low resolution (yuck!) so there are still issues with pattern fill, unfortunately.
To add a stock patterns to Inkscape you have to edit the xml. http://www.inkscapecuttingdesign.com/smf/index.php?topic=493.0
There are a gazillion bitmap seamless tiles out there so I don't see much of a need to make more of those, but seamless vector tiles are still fairly rare.
I don't design mine using clipping. I usually use my bitmap tools to show me what the tile needs to look like and then recreate it from scratch in Inkscape.
I still need an answer to the question what is the best way to share these. For instance, one pattern per document not yet converted to a pattern; a set of pattern swatches already added to the palette, etc.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 02:08:18 PM »
OK folks,
I have got a set of 8 patterns in 2 different formats for you to play around with.
Pattern Tiles is just the raw paths that you can use for tiling or if you want to change the color and then turn into a pattern with object to pattern.
Pattern Fills is a document that has the 8 patterns already in the menu. They will stay there even if you delete the swatches. Or --and I thought this was a cool discovery -- if you copy a swatch to another document, the pattern will appear in the pattern menu.
Give them a whirl and see if this is something you might find useful. It was a lot of work, but I learned a lot and think I know what I am doing now. Oh, and don't be alarmed if you see white lines between the tiles on your screen. Try a printout and they should disappear. I get crisper print results with 0.47 than 0.48. Anyone running both that could confirm this for me that would be great.

edit: Carolyn, I never even noticed that Affect button before! Another thing to explore.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 05:06:04 PM »
As usual I was on the wrong track, lol. Vector tiles are so much better and offer more design freedom.

The link is great and gives me something new to learn. As I mentioned earlier I gave up with pattern fills but will give it another try.

My personal preference would be to have a selection of tiles on the one document. I see I am a bit late at answering and you have already posted some pattern fills, thank you.

The Affect buttons are great and it was only luck that I found them. I like the first one that prevents the stroke width changing when an object is resized.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 05:20:43 PM »
I'm back. All I have looked at the tiles and all I have to say is WOW. I have got to learn how to do this.

Thank you for showing us something new. This method will save hours of work.

My favourite is the honeycomb design as I have tried many times and never been successful. At long last I can create the projects I had in mind.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 08:16:45 AM »
Thanks Kay, the patterns are wonderful.  Off to play with them.
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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 11:48:17 AM »
I went and played.  I saw someone of the SCAL forum do something like this with a photograph.  Well I didn't have a photo I could use so I used a font called PUPPINS.

I copy and pasted 3 of the patterns onto the same mat with the converted font image and went to work filling each piece with a different pattern and adjusting size.

Easy and quick if you have all the patterns together on one page, GREAT IDEA.  Just think of the possibilities for P2C.

Kay, if it is OK with you I'll share the svg so everyone can see the contruction.
thanks,

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Re: Sharing patterns
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 02:40:57 PM »
That looks so cool, Sue. Is that what they call zentangle? I will be sharing the svgs on my blog soon with a video I hope, but until then you are free to post them on the SCAL board (is that what you meant?). Once I do a blog post I'll let you know and you can go back and point them there if you don't mind.
On rereading this I think you meant share your SVG and of course you can. Ultimately I hope to see these patterns in everyone's documents :) but always trying to squeeze some blog traffic out where I can...
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