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Offline PapaSue

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Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« on: August 11, 2010, 08:39:50 PM »
I'm guessing that almost all of us have been there.  A reminder of the pain of learning Inkscape.

I had a request yesterday from a very bright, talented lady who was new to Inkscape and ran into some of the most common problems that newbies face when trying to create a cut file with text to cut in SCAL.  My guess is that some on the things she did would equally apply to those using other cutters, but I'd like to hear about those too.

She sent me the file and there were all the common things that I sorta expected based on her email.

It was a lot easier to make a video than to try and write down what needed to be done to fix the file.  I posted it on YouTube for her alone and she said it would be OK to share it here.  This video hopefully will give both newbies and designers insight into what a mess you can get into with Inkscape, whether or not you are cutting to SCAL.

Hope someone finds value in my quickie tut.

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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2010, 11:08:35 PM »
Hi Susan, I will head over to You Tube and watch.

After waiting 30 minutes for a 7 minute video to load, I eventually got to watch the video.
Yep, that grouping can catch us all out.

The following question does not relate to the video as I know that was something different.
Do you find in Inkscape 0.47 that objects often group all my themselves? Or is it my computer gremlins at work again?
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 08:38:52 AM »
Hey Carolyn,

I just had to do the video for her since there were so many things gone wrong it was faster and hopefully more helpful than a page of words. :lol: I did not take the time to get the video centered but she was able to fix the problem and cut.

Yes some things seem to group, like the path effects stuff.

Question back.  Does your machine choke on groups?  SCAL seems to be better than before but still doesn't like them much and as my friend found out it really doesn't like text grouped.

Ciao
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 12:41:21 AM »
Hi all!

I am also a newb and am slowly but surely learning inkscape. I have watched a TON of tutorials on youtube about inkscape. And I have made some really good progress. But sounds like I am having a fairly common problem for a newbie.

I created this entire design in inkscape using text. When I move it to SCAL none of the text is where it should be. And there's no method to the madness.

I went to check out the video but I am so far behind, that looks like the video has been removed. Is there a way for me to view the video?

Thanks so much!
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 03:02:33 PM »
Quote from: "rebmac"
Hi all!

I am also a newb and am slowly but surely learning inkscape. I have watched a TON of tutorials on youtube about inkscape. And I have made some really good progress. But sounds like I am having a fairly common problem for a newbie.

I created this entire design in inkscape using text. When I move it to SCAL none of the text is where it should be. And there's no method to the madness.

I went to check out the video but I am so far behind, that looks like the video has been removed. Is there a way for me to view the video?

Thanks so much!

Hi rebmac,
I am sorry I can't help answer this as I do not use SCAL. Many members here do use SCAL and hopefully one of them can help you out. PapaSue and Heather are very good and should be able to help or give a link to where you can get assistance.
If I remember correctly the missing video was made by Papasue and was to do with grouping. In Inkscape you cannot do a lot of things if objects are grouped but I don't think this is your problem.
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 06:43:15 PM »
Rebmac,

If you can post your .svg file here I'll take a look and figure it out for you and if it is a complicated fix I might even do you a video. :lol:
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 07:40:29 PM »
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Rebmac,

If you can post your .svg file here I'll take a look and figure it out for you and if it is a complicated fix I might even do you a video. :lol:


Thank you SO much for ANY help you can give me!  After looking at it you might just end up saying: look lady, you suck at inkscape, don't bother trying THAT again!  Yes, it could possibly be THAT bad.    :lol:
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 09:47:28 PM »
Hardly will I ban you from using Inkscape, nor will I castigate you for trying. I may beat you with a stick until you learn how to use it, knowing full well it will be for your own good.  I'm a mom and a grandma I know how to use guilt and such as weapons.

I'll get back to you in the morning with a diagnosis if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Ciao
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 09:54:15 PM »
Hi Rebmac,
What versions of SCAL and Inkscape are you using?  There are some compatibility issues with some versions of SCAL and some versions of Inkscape.

Here is a shortcut that you might want to try with text: try Path/Union instead of Path/Object to Path.  Path/Union will convert the text into a single Path, rather than as a Group with each letter as a Path.
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 10:27:34 PM »
What a fun graphic, well worth fixing.  Sorry but it is not horrible, in fact it opens for me in SCAL2.038 and everything is in place which makes Heather's request for your SCAL version. your Ink version and Computer system info even more important.  post this info as soon as you can so we can chew on it a bit.

I opened it in Ink 0.48 and saw that you'd "grouped" the words instead of path/union, but it appears to me that SCAL didn't choke on that part which is good news, I think.

You could spend some time ungrouping the words (each word individually) and then doing a path/union, that should keep you busy while we figure out why it is blowing apart on you.,

It is too late tonight for me to do much (I'm in California, USA) and it is 9pm.  Heather is up really late since I think she is either 2 or 3 hours ahead of me, which means she'll be up earlier in the morning that I will and you may be all set with her help. :P

Here is your file, untouched opened in SCAL 2.038

Screen shot 2011-02-06 at 9.23.24 PM.png
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We will talk about "cutting" it tomorrow since I doubt you'll like what happens when you cut it without some thing to hold the words altogether. 

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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 03:29:07 PM »
Oooo Thank You PapaSue and Heather I knew someone would come to rebmac rescue soon.........Nice design by the way Rebmac..
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 05:40:57 PM »
Sorry it took me so long to reply!  I have a house full of sick people (including myself!)  And *this* time I'm not talking about my insanity.  lol.  Thank you for the compliments on my design!  And Thhank you both SO much for trying to figure this thing out! Let me see if I can answer the questions

I run Windows XP, the original version of SCAL version 1.016 (sad, I know) and Inkscape 0.48.

So I have messed around with it a little and got *most* of  everything to come together in SCAL. However, I still have a couple of stragglers that your advice will help me fix (I hope...lol). NOW, my problem is (this design is slowly becoming a pain in my rear) there is one word that the font is just not showing up correctly in SCAL. But, I don't know that I'm going to hassle with it and will probably just change the font in inkscape to something that doesn't want to fight me. ha!  Looking at Papasue's screen shot of SCAL2 it doesn't have the same problem with the word/font that SCAL1 does. It's the word "kaerlighed" in the upper left section of the heart.  So I'm beginning to think that my major problem is my version of SCAL. Which I have been wanting to upgrade for a while and this just might give me the excuse...I mean reason  :)

In the mean time, I will work on (when my kids are not driving me crazy) ungrouping the words and doing path/union on them.

On a OT side note: Papasue, beating me with a stick has always worked for my mother, so that's probably our best bet.  And along the way I might just learn a couple of tricks of the mom/grandma trade as I have little ones that such skills might work well on as they get older  :)
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Re: Problems with Inkscape to SCAL - Tutorial HELP
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 06:17:40 PM »
Inkscape 0.48 won't play nice with SCAL1.  Try using Inkscape 0.47 instead.  You can download it from here.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkscap ... /inkscape/

SCAL1 also doesn't like Object/Group, so ungroup everything.  Use Control A and look at the message bar at the bottom of the Ink window to confirm that there are no more groups.   It will tell you if you have any Groups left.  The fix for your file made with Ink48 is:  Once everything is ungrouped, select all (Control A) and use Path/Union.  Hopefully that will make everything stay where it belongs.  HTH
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